An Interview With

Julie Freedman Smith

SEASON 5 | EPISODE 106 | 22 July 2025

Echoes of the Land

Singing, Language & Reconciliation Through Music

⏰ Timecodes ⏰

00:00 – Welcome & Intro

01:45 – How the Collaboration Began

06:40 – Singing on the Land & Juno Nomination

09:10 – Learning to Work Respectfully

11:40 – Songkeepers, Vocables & Language Revival

14:50 – The Role of Cree Language

16:50 – Singing with the Next Generation

19:40 – Music as Emotional Imprint

22:00 – Walking the Land While Singing in Cree

25:00 – A Song for Mother Earth (Ogawimaski)

28:10 – What We Can Learn from First Nations Ways of Being

30:30 – Where to Start if You’re Curious

33:30 – Art as an Invitation

36:00 – The Song That Guides Julie’s Work

38:30 – Final Reflections & Farewell

About this Episode

In this deeply interesting episode, I’m joined by Julie from Luminous Voices, a professional choir based in Canada that’s been quietly reshaping its work by collaborating with First Nations composers and singers.


What started as an outdoor music project during COVID has become an ongoing journey into shared musical storytelling — one that honours Indigenous languages like Cree, explores traditional singing techniques such as vocables, and centres connection, slowness, and care.

 

🎶 In this episode, we talk about:

  • Singing in Cree and why language carries memory and healing

  • The meaning of vocables — non-word syllables full of cultural significance

  • What it means to begin with listening and relationship before performance

  • How music helps bridge generations, especially in schools

  • The story behind the song Ogawimaski — a love letter to Mother Earth

  • Julie’s personal moment walking the land while singing — and feeling the past ripple through her

  • How non-Indigenous allies can respectfully begin their own learning journey

  • Why music might be the gentlest path toward reconciliation and cultural connection

 

Julie shares how this work has not only changed how they perform, but how they gather, listen, and walk alongside communities with deep roots on the land. We also talk about the personal impact — what it feels like to sing to Mother Earth, and how humility and love are at the heart of this ongoing journey.

If you’re curious about how music can support reconciliation, or if you’ve ever felt like a song can teach you more than a textbook — this conversation is a beautiful place to begin.

Whether you’re a musician, an introvert curious about culture, or someone wanting to explore a more heart-led path to connection, I hope this episode gives you something to hold and reflect on.

 

Acknowledgement:
This episode includes conversation around First Nations music and cultural collaboration.

I respectfully acknowledge the Bunurong People of the Kulin Nation, the Traditional Custodians of the land where I live and create. I honour their deep connection to land, song, and story — and pay my respects to Elders past and present.

I also acknowledge the Indigenous Peoples of Canada — including First Nations, Inuit, and Métis — whose music, language, and cultural knowledge are shared in this episode through the lived experience of my guest.

 

 

Meet Julie Freedman Smith

A “Recovering music teacher, “Julie Freedman Smith has been singing in choirs for nearly 40 years. She is a founding member of Luminous Voices and works as a choral clinician with school and community choirs.

When not making music, Julie is a parenting educator (Parentmentornow.com), teaches Tai Chi, and currently serves as the President of Choir Alberta.

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